WeIs Roundtable Week 8 Picks: Putting the Unbeatens to the Test Edition

An outstanding week for college football fans.  Intriguing matchups all around.  No reason to dally - let's get right to the picks.

Wisconsin (-7.5) @ Michigan State

Dan: Wisconsin (-7.5)

I am actually surprised this score isn’t a little higher. I know MSU’s defense has been dominant, excepting their trip to South Bend. However, in this match-up, I think Wisconsin will be able to run on MSU and I just don’t think the Spartans can keep up on offense. 

Wisconsin 38 Michigan State 24

Jeremy: Wisconsin (-7.5) Lock of the Week

Interesting test for the Badgers.  Their first real road game, and MSU is coming off the nice win over Michigan.  Probably a bit of a letdown here for Sparty, though their solid front seven should keep them in the game until late.  Will be interesting to see if Dantonio punishes Gholston at all this weekend.  I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.  Wilson and Wisco eventually wear down MSU and pull away in the final frame.

Wisconsin 34  MSU 20

Jimmy: Wisconsin (-7.5)  Lock of the Week

An electric night game atmosphere looking to sacrifice the blood of Bucky Badger is a tempting upset pick.  I watched most of the Spartans game against Michigan and their defense looked impressive in selling out to stop Denard.  They blitzed with reckless abandon and committed penalties with even more recklessness.  But that outcome didn’t surprise me at all.  Michigan was ripe to be beaten.  Wisconsin, I’m afraid, is not.  

The offensive balance and talent at all positions is a distinct difference from UM’s one-trick pony.  Provided Nick Toon is back on the field, the receiving corps is very underrated and know how to get open for Russell Wilson.  Wilson is the real deal prospect, capable of hurting you with his arm, legs and now hands.  The Thunder & Lightning backfield of Ball and White can wear down the Spartans by themselves.  People are getting a little overzealous anointing MSU’s defense as dominant.  Lest we forget, ND scored 31 on this vaunted unit.  I’ll be quite surprised if they hold Wisconsin under 30.

Wisconsin 38  MSU 24

Mike: Michigan State (+7.5)

Perhaps I have been underrating Wisconsin all year, but I still refuse to believe that the Badgers are an elite team.  While Wisconsin has steamrolled all of its opponents this year and its offense looks legitimate, I wonder whether its defense will hold up to a quality offensive attack.  Even though Michigan State’s offense has not been overly impressive, they showed signs of recapturing their ability to run the football last week against Michigan and I expect a similar performance this week, coupled with an improved effort by Kirk Cousins.  The Spartans will move the ball effectively, slow Wisconsin’s offense more than any of the Badgers’ prior opponents and ride the wave of home emotion for another big win.

Michigan State 33 Wisconsin 31

Phil: Michigan St (+7.5)  Lock of the Week

Could this be considered the first TRUE test for the Badgers? Nebraska is not as good as advertisement, and while I do not think MSU is that great, they did beat Michigan, although the game was closer than the final score lets on. While I think Russell Wilson gets it done and Whisky marches on to an undefeated season and a 3rd place finish, I think this game will be a close one, and MSU will play tough. 

Wisconsin 28 Michigan St 24

Oklahoma State (-7) @ Missouri

Dan: Missouri (+7)

My general gambling strategy this year has been stick with the big favorites and ride them to a big pay day. Stanford, LSU, and Alabama are a combined 18-2 against the spread this year. Other undefeated teams like Boise State, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, and Clemson also have performed well against the spread. Oklahoma State, however, does not give me the same confidence as those other teams. Missouri is a mundane 3-3, but those three losses are an OT loss @ ASU,  @OU, and @KState by a touchdown. This is a tough call for me, but I think the Cowboys may be due for a stumble, and an 11:00 am start on the road may be just the formula. Cowboys are too good to lose to Missouri, but a sneaky cover may lie in the Tigers’ future. 

Oklahoma State 23 Missouri 17

Jeremy: Oklahoma St (-7)

Oklahoma St. has taken care of business the last few weeks, setting the table for one of the bigger Bedlam games in the history of the series in a few weeks.  But they've got to go on the road to Mizzou this week, and the Tigers will be looking to play spoiler.  I do think the Cowboys are looking ahead a bit, but they find a way to win on the road in the 4th quarter and cover the TD.

Oklahoma St. 37  Missouri 27

Jimmy: Oklahoma State (-7)

This shouldn’t be just another blowout romp for the Cowboys.  Missouri might be the best 3 loss team in the country, with 3 tough road losses to a top 25 Arizona State team (37-30), the nation’s  surprise undefeated Kansas State (24-17) and Oklahoma (38-28).  James Franklin is getting comfortable in his role, spreading the love around to multiple weapons, and Kendial Lawrence is back from injury to make the backfield doubly potent.  Add in the pressure/opportunity of a job interview type game with the SEC reviewing Mizzou’s conference application.  A win would go a long ways toward convincing Mike Slive to name them the 14th SEC school (and 3rd Tigers mascot in the conference - maybe they’d force them to pick another animal to add some variety to the mascot zoo.  The Missouri Moose has a nice ring to it.  Or Mastadons.  Don’t think any school has picked the Chameleons.  Herbie Hancock could even compose a new fight song [if you're a fan of the 80's, you'll love this clip - dig the honky saxaphonist in the Hammer pants, and the pony-tailed fade haircut on the guy playing the drum sticks.  I think that's all he's playing.  Doesn't look the band trusted him with a full drum kit].  Digressing, I know...me and my mascots). 

While there’s plenty of reasons to predict a students-dangling-from-the-uprights moment (is it me or have there been significantly fewer rushing of the fields so far this season?), I still like Oklahoma State to win comfortably.  Their win in Austin last week spoke volumes for their team composure in a tight game.  And they’ve covered the spread their last 5 games.  While I don’t think Mike Gundy runs the table, Stillwater’s streak lives on another week.

Oklahoma State 44  Missouri 34

Mike: Missouri (+7)

In my worst season of prognosticating in about a decade, I continue to cling stubbornly to the idea that Oklahoma State will eventually stub its toe and fall back to the middle of the top 25.  Obviously, I have been wrong in the last few weeks, but, rather than take my medicine and quit while I’m behind, I will call for Missouri to upset the Cowboys.  The Tigers have the talent to beat Oklahoma State, especially if they are able to rely upon their strong running game to keep Weeden and Blackmon off the field.  Missouri will control the clock and slow the Pokes just enough to score the outright upset in Columbia.

Missouri 35 Oklahoma State 31

Phil: Oklahoma State (-7)

Not sure about Missouri this year. They seem to be always competitive, and pull a big upset each year a la OU last year. However, I do know about Weeden and Blackmon and I am quite a fan of the Cowboys. Even a tough away game cannot keep the pokes from marching on to Bedlam unscathed. 

OK St 41 Missouri 31

Washington (+20) @ Stanford

Dan: Washington (+20)

Washington’s defense has not performed well this year. Stanford can certainly score enough points to cover by 20 points. Whether or not they will comes down to the Cardinal defense vs. Cougar offense. This is the first threatening offense Stanford is encountering this year. While the defense has performed very well against some lesser teams (allowing 8.2 ppg) this year, it will have its hands full this weekend with young Keith Price, who is 2^nd in the nation in TD passes. Luck will get his points, but Price and the Huskies score enough for the cover and deliver Stanford its first loss ATS.

Stanford 44 Washington 27

Jeremy: Washington (+20)

I think Sark is quietly building something solid up there in on the banks of Lake Washington, and I'll have an eye on the score of this one during the ND game on Saturday.  Luck is obviously outstanding, but the Cardinal haven't really been tested much yet, and I'd expect Sark and the Huskies to pull out all the stops to give Stanford their best shot.  It isn't enough, but the Cardinal get a bit of a wake-up call.

Stanford 30  Washington 17

Jimmy: Washington (+20)

Though they’re a combined 11-1, neither team has really beaten anyone of merit.  While Stanford’s defense has yet to surrender 20 points, this Huskies offense will be the best they’ve faced.  Stanford seems due for a little scare.  A close thriller might even help Luck’s Heisman candidacy, both in numbers and attention.  The Cardinal hold on, but this seems like too many points.

Stanford 46  Washington 38

Mike: Washington (+20)

Further proving that Jake Locker might have been the most overrated player in the history of college football, his replacement, Keith Price, is putting up better numbers in his first year as a starter than Locker put up in his senior season.  Washington also boasts a strong running game with Chris Polk, Jesse Callier and true freshman Bishop Sankey, who decommitted from Wazzu last year.  Of course, Washington’s defense, led by the embattled defensive coordinator Nick Holt, is still shaky, which could mean another huge performance for Andrew Luck.  The Huskies will score enough to cover the spread, but they will not keep pace with Luck and the Cardinal offense in Palo Alto.

Stanford 45 Washington 28  

Phil: Stanford (-20)

Lots of points on the line here, but Stanford is at home, and Washington is not that good. On to the next one.

Stanford 40 Washington 14

LSU (-22.5) @ Auburn

Dan: Auburn (+22.5)

That spread is pretty tough to stomach. In prior years, I could not have imagined this spread, let alone imagined taking the favorite. LSU has been absolutely dominant with a margin of victory of 29 points in their last 4 (WVU, UK, UF, UT). But I can’t bring myself to take a 22.5 favorite against the defending national champions. LSU will still dominate the game, but Auburn does enough to get the cover.

LSU 31 Auburn 16

Jeremy: LSU (-22.5)

Sorry Dr. Phil, but after watching most of last week's Auburn-Florida game, I don't have any confidence that the War Eagle will be able to score any points on that ferocious LSU defense.  LSU runs away in the 2nd half.

LSU 31  Auburn 3

Jimmy: Auburn (+22.5)

The Tiger Bowl has become appointment television the last few years with 6 of the last 7 contests decided by a touchdown or less.  Not surprisingly, at least one team has been ranked in the top 10 in all of those games, as is the case this year.  LSU keeps looking scary good while Auburn keeps us guessing which team will show up.  What we do know is Auburn has a punishing running attack led my Michael Dyer, which can bleed the clock and keep this a tight contest.  LSU might stack 10 in the box to see if Clint Moseley can beat them in his first start.  This pick respects the history of the rivalry more than anything.

LSU 19  Auburn 14

Mike: Auburn (+22.5)

As with Oklahoma State, I continue to pick against LSU every week and I continue to get burned.  Still, I just cannot accept that LSU, with its pedestrian offense, will keep winning by huge margins every week.  Auburn’s offense has devolved into a train wreck over the last few games, so the LSU defense should be more than capable of dominating again.  On the other hand, the Auburn defense has improved enough to keep this game close enough to earn the cover.

LSU 27 Auburn 10

Phil: Auburn (+22.5)

On to the marquee matchup of the weekend. Auburn, coming off another horrendous offensive performance (is Malzahn really getting 1.3 million this year?!?), finds themselves an underdog by more than 3 TDs. If this isn't bulletin board material for the fightin' Chiziks, then I don't know what is. 

Let's discuss the positives. Going back about 15 years, Auburn wins most of the day games, LSU wins most of the night games. This game is the 2:30 CBS game. Auburn traditionally plays LSU close. Our defense, and especially our D Line has shown vast improvement over the past 3 games, and we have made tackles and gotten pressure on the QB. LSU is not a well oiled machine on offense and they run a more conservative game plan, different from the pass-happy Razorbacks, who shredded us. 

Here are the negatives. LSU has a crazy amazing defense and Auburn is breaking a first time starter in a QB. Baton Rouge will be jumpin' for this game, as no one has forgotten what Cam did to the corn dogs last year. 

Call me an idealist but I see alot of things that could make this game competitive. I can also see Auburn keeping it close early, but due to our inability to move the ball, a Tyrann Mathieu fumble return for a TD blows the game wide open and LSU wins going away. Either way, I refuse to believe that the mighty War Eagles will approach this game laying down and I hope that Mean Gene and Gus have a little something cooked up. #WDE

Auburn 20 LSU 16

Bonus Picks

Dan: New Mexico @ TCU (-41)

New Mexico just lost at Nevada 49-7. TCU is better than Nevada by a fair amount. This may be the largest spread I will ever have money on the favorite. 

TCU 54 New Mexico 10

Jeremy: Ohio (-14) at Akron

I've wanted to bet against the Zips ever since Week 1 and keep forgetting about it.  Any team that looks as poor as Akron did against the Buckeyes has to be absolutely miserable.  In looking over their scores, they have been a little friskier lately, but I'd consider making the Zips my go-to pick the rest of the year.

Ohio 28  Akron 10

Jimmy: Indiana @ Iowa (-21.5)

IU wishes they could start Gunner Kiel now.  They stink.  Confident the home team can blow off some steam and cover this reasonably placed spread.  Vegas shouldn't put any team with a pulse within 30 of the Hoosiers.  

Iowa 48  Indiana 13

Mike: Wake Forest (-3) over Duke

Wake Forest took a step back last week against Virginia Tech, but they are still far superior to Duke.  Despite playing in front of 15,000 rabid fans in Wallace Wade Stadium (query- do the students have a nickname for football like the “Cameron Crazies” for basketball?  The Wallace Wade Wildmen?  The Dub Dub Deranged?  The Duke Kooks?), the Deacs should be able to handle their Tobacco Road rivals with relative ease.

Wake Forest 35 Duke 24 

Phil: Georgia Tech @ Miami (-2)

I anticipated Tech would be the favorite here, and it would be easy money, but alas, Vegas proves again how smart they are. GT was exposed to some degree last week, with their first L of the season and Miami seems to be hitting thier stride. Like what Al Golden is doing, and I think the Canes can pull of the W.

Miami 24 GT 17

Last Week

Dan: 4-1 (+ Lock of the Week)

Jeremy: 4-1 (+)

Jimmy: 2-3 (-)

Mike: 2-3 (+)

Phil: 2-3 (+)

Season To Date

Dan: 27-13 (6-1) 

Jeremy: 25-15-1 (4-3)

Jimmy: 23-15-3 (6-1)

Mike: 19-21-1 (3-3-1)

Phil: 17-22-1 (4-2-1)

Auburn did what??

You gotta love sports sometimes. In what other world of entertainment do you have as many jaw-dropping moments as you do in sports?? Whether it is on the field or off the field, sports are always unpredictable. You never know what is going to happen next. Saturday night, we're over at a friend's house watching the Crosstown Shootout, enjoying the game, when all of the sudden the following headline shows up on the ticker on ESPN2:

"Auburn is expected to hire Iowa State head coach Gene Chizik."

WHAAAT?!! I almost fell off the couch. We immediately flipped over to ESPN News just to make sure we saw it right. And sure enough, there it is under the "Breaking News" section. Gene Chizik...new head ball coach at Auburn.

Just when you thought you had seen it all in college football, Auburn goes out and hires Gene freaking Chizik to take over their football program after he went 5-19 in two years at Iowa State. I still can't get over this hire. You have potential rising stars like Turner Gill and Skip Holtz sniffing around this job, and they jump into the pool with a guy who was close to getting fired by his former employer.

Here are some of the lowlights of the Gene Chizik era. Iowa State went 2-10 this year and went 0-8 in the conference. 0-8!! They lost to Baylor by 28! His only wins this year were against South Dakota State and Kent State. They lost their final ten games.

Not only was he not winning at Iowa State, he was on the verge of getting fired!! I get the impression that Chizik had one more year to turn it around before getting canned.

The reaction from Iowa State fans?? RELIEF! My god, how would you feel as an Auburn fan knowing that Iowa State fans are happy that the guy is leaving?

It would be like Penn State firing Joe Paterno tomorrow and hiring Charlie Weis a week later. I would literally be pouring champagne on myself right now if that happened. And that's basically what has happened at Auburn. They hired a coach who has never been successful as a head coach and who was about to get fired.

Maybe Gregg Robinson should send his resume to Auburn in a few years if/when Chizik inevitably gets fired. If they are willing to hire Chizik, why not go for the jugular and bring in Gregg Robinson after that rousing success he had at Syracuse?? Or maybe Ty Willingham!

Can you imagine Nick Saban's reaction to this hire?? He must have started laughing out loud. Auburn is so spooked by Nick Saban it's not even funny.

Is it possible that Chizik could work out at Auburn?? No doubt, and you never really know in sports. For all I know, he was in a bad situation at Iowa State that was going to take 5+ years for him to turn around, so maybe the Auburn job will give him the talent that he needs to win. Maybe Iowa State was just a bad fit. Maybe he's got better networks and connections at Auburn that will let him hire a better staff and get better players. He went to Florida for college, so maybe he's not comfortable in Iowa and needs to be back in SEC country to be successful. I'm not willing to discount that possibility. If he hires a great staff, recruits his face off, and gets his players to buy in, maybe he'll do well there.

But based on what we know about Chizik, this move is right up there among the worst hires in the history of college football. He's been a complete failure as a head coach so far, and now he's stepping into a hornet's nest in the SEC. The only move I would put down as a more egregiously bad hire was the Bengals' hiring of David Shula almost immediately after Shula got demoted from offensive coordinator to defensive backs coach by Jimmy Johnson with the Cowboys. But Chizik would be in that conversation for me (if you've made it into the "David Shula" category with me, that's the lowest of the low). It makes absolutely no sense to me, especially when you consider that there were a lot of good young coaches out there who they probably could have lured to Auburn. Turner Gill, Skip Holtz, Brady Hoke, etc. All guys who have won at their respective jobs and made their programs better.

Chizik took over a bad program and made them significantly worse. It's not like he's recruiting well or showing some slow signs of improvement. He's brought nothing to the table in Ames. And now he's headed to the toughest conference in football to compete against the likes of Urban Meyer and Richt and Saban and Petrino and Miles and Houston Nutt and now Lane Kiffin. Auburn just went from having a solid coach who was in the top half of coaches in the league to a complete unknown who may turn out to be among the worst.

And the fact that Tommy Tuberville was a legitimate success at Auburn (probably one of the best coaches in their history) is only compounding the problem here. Tuberville won games at Auburn and probably would have won games in the future once he settled the problems from this season. An absolute BEST CASE SCENARIO for Gene Chizik would be for him to be the next Tommy Tuberville at Auburn. A worst case scenario is that he runs Auburn into the ground, Saban completely takes over the state for the next decade, and Auburn football goes through a long term malaise that permanently puts them into the second tier in the SEC. Throw in the likelihoood that their recruiting is going to hit rock bottom this winter, and all bets are off on how bad this could potentially get.

I hate to be banging on Auburn because I like Auburn. They have a good program, and I've enjoyed watching them over the years. The Bengals have drafted a lot of good players from Auburn (Rudi Johnson, Takeo Spikes, Willie Anderson, Pat Sims, etc), so I've always had an affinity for the program. But somewhere along the line, they forgot that they are Auburn!! They are the second best program in their own state and probably the 5-6th most prestigious job in their conference at best. What is Auburn's upside?? I'd say that Tuberville was getting as much out of that program as anyone could. They are a 7-9 win program at their core that can have runs of success when the other heavy hitters in the league are down, but they are never going to be the elite program in the SEC (especially when programs like Alabama and Florida and Georgia are all "up"). I know they are worried about Saban, but why would you make a panic hire as an attempt to counteract Saban?? Why not ride it out with Tuberville until you have a great candidate lined up?? Does anyone really think recruits are going to be flocking to Gene Chizik over Nick Saban?

So what does this say about ND?? It seems like the coaching searches of 2008 were an absolute crapshoot. Auburn hires a coach with a 5-19 record. Washington hires an assistant. Tennessee hires a coach who has never been a head coach in college and got fired from his job in the pros. Clemson hires an assistant. All of these hires could turn out great, but chances are that several of them (if not all of them) will be complete busts.

At the end of the day, even if it is possible (likely?) that ND may not have any clue what they are doing, it will probably benefit us in the long run that we made the decision to keep Weis around for next year. If ND had fired Charlie Weis, the coaching search would have been an absolute train wreck. It would have made the Auburn coaching search look downright shrewd. And the result of a coaching search would have led to a hire that divided the fanbase and killed all the momentum in the program. Recruiting would have taken a complete nose dive, and there were no hires out there that would have made fans excited about this program.

Bringing back Weis gives ND all kinds of options. We get an entire year to really start making critical evaluations of the good young coaches out there, it gives us time to see if any big coaching moves shake out in the offseason (college coach to the pros or some other big move), and it also gives us one last look at Charlie Weis to see if he can revamp his staff and start winning games next year with an experienced team. I have admittedly lost faith in Charlie, but there's at least a glimmer of hope out there that he will right the ship and correct the problems with this program. If ND could get tougher up front, mix in more of those young d-linemen, and get some big stuff from Cierre Wood in the running game and on special teams, maybe this team makes the leap next year. We're already on the hook for $20 million to Weis or whatever. We might as well find out for sure what he's got, and buy some time to get the right coach if Weis isn't the answer. Rushing out and hiring Jim Grobe does us no favors.

Tommy Tuberville---Gone!

Bold move by Auburn to dump Tommy Tuberville. Not sure where I stand on this one. I can understand where Auburn is coming from, but there is a lot of risk with this move.

On the one hand, I know Auburn fans have been frustrated with Tuberville for years, and this season gave them an opportunity to make a clean break from Tuberville. Tuberville botched this season with the half-baked move to the spread offense, and they got slaughtered by Alabama. I think there was always a lingering feeling down at Auburn that they could do better than Tuberville. Tuberville is a good coach but not a real flashy guy and not a dynamic offensive coach.

On the other hand, he went 85-40 in the SEC!! What do people down there expect??? Do they think Auburn should be winning 10+ games a year in the SEC?? Auburn is a very good program obviously, but look at all the other programs down there. Florida, Bama, LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, etc. Auburn is not the best program in the SEC and probably never will be. They are the little brother school in the state of Alabama, which isn't exactly the best state for high school talent in the region. Auburn obviously has great talent, but is their talent so good that they should expect to always beat teams like Florida and LSU?? Cmon.

Here is Tuberville's record year by year:

1999 Auburn 5–6 2–6 5th—West — —
2000 Auburn 9–4 6–3 1st—West L Citrus Bowl 20 18
2001 Auburn 7–5 5–3 2nd—West L Peach Bowl — —
2002 Auburn 9–4 5–3 2nd—West W Capital One Bowl 16 14
2003 Auburn 8–5 5–3 3rd—West W Music City Bowl — —
2004 Auburn 13–0 9–0 1st—West W Sugar Bowl † 2 2
2005 Auburn 9–3 7–1 2nd—West L Capital One Bowl 14 14
2006 Auburn 11–2 6–2 2nd—West W Cotton Bowl 8 9
2007 Auburn 9–4 5–3 2nd—West W Chick-fil-A Bowl 14 15
2008 Auburn 5–7 2–6 4th—West
Auburn: 85–40 52–30

By my count, he went 5-3 in bowl games, won 11+ games twice, won 2 SEC West titles, one SEC championship, produced 6 ranked teams in 10 years at Auburn (including 4 top 15 teams in a row until this past year), and I believe that he went something like 7-3 against Alabama. His typical year was an 8-4/9-3 type season with a bowl win. Should they be building statues of him on campus?? No, of course not. But is someone like Mike Leach going to come into the SEC West and suddenly start cranking out a bunch of top 5 teams?? I'd love to say yes, but I'm not sure I buy it.

At the end of the day, Tuberville produced results fitting for an Auburn head coach. He turned them into one of the top 4-5 programs in the conference during his tenure, and there was a stretch for a few years where you could argue that Auburn was the best program in the conference or at least in the conversation.

I know he had a bad year in 2008, but isn't there something to be said for letting the guy work through his one bad year?? I don't know, I'm not privy to all that was going on at Auburn. Maybe players were packing it in, maybe recruiting was suffering, maybe he had lost the fans. But this move seems like a rush to get him out the door when there isn't really an obvious candidate out there for the job. If this season had happened last year when Bobby Petrino was available, I would have understood it. But are Auburn fans really ready to hitch their wagon to Mike Leach and expect him to carry them to a bunch of SEC West titles and wins over Nick Saban?? Is the spread really what Auburn fans want?? That's not the Auburn football that I know. The power running game with Rudi Johnson and a physical defense Auburn. That's the Auburn I know. Tuberville knew that type of football.

Some of these SEC programs have lost their minds. Know your role. When there are 5 superpower programs in that league, it's tough to dominate that league for any extended period of time. Especially at a school like Auburn that isn't even the most famous program in its own state. I'm not saying you can't win a league title at Auburn. You can when you have the right combination of seniors and talent. There are windows at places like Auburn to be successful, especially if other big names in the league are struggling. But forcing a fairly successful coach out after one losing season seems like a risky move. There's just not a whole lot of upside for Auburn football, but they could certainly spend many years in the doldrums if they botch this next hire. And without an obvious candidate there for them to hire, they could easily blow this hire.

It will certainly be interesting. Maybe the new coach at Auburn will take that program to new heights. I like Auburn football, and I hope it works out for them. I hope that Leach or Muschamp wins bigger than Tuberville did. But as long as Nick Saban and Urban Meyer are around, I think Auburn football has a ceiling no matter who the coach is.