August 11, 2010

WEIS Roundtable: Burning Questions for the 2010 Season

A smattering of water cooler topics to prime everyone for the upcoming college football season. The questions were so compelling that we had to break the answers down into not one, not two, but three(!) days worth of material. Hope you enjoy. Fan the flames of the discussion and let us know your thoughts in the comments or e-mail us at the address to the right.

1) How will Michigan perform this year, and who will lead the Wolverines out of the tunnel on opening day 2011?

Jeremy: Michigan might end up being the most interesting story of the season. The offense had no trouble putting points on the board last year (especially against the Irish), and the Wolverines return most of their important personnel on that side of the ball. Additionally, if you believe the reports from the spring game in Ann Arbor, Rodriguez may have finally found the Michigan version of Pat White in Denard Robinson. Robinson and Forcier should complement each other well, and there are plenty of weapons on the outside. The Wolverines do have to replace Brandon Minor in the backfield, but there are ample waterbug-types available for big-play potential. Look for Michigan to continue its high scoring ways this year.


HOWEVA, the 2010 Michigan defense could be one of the worst in recent memory. Brandon Graham and Donovan Warren have moved on, and unless some serious sleepers emerge, there isn’t much starpower out there to be found. Mike Martin and William Campbell could combine for a formidable front line, but many of the same characters in the LB corps and secondary return from last year’s debacle (including a few walk-ons).


Looking at the schedule, I’m thinking 6-6, with 7-5 or 5-7 as real possibilities. We’ll know quite a bit about how the season will go in the first two weeks – UCONN at home and ND in South Bend. A 2-0 start could help Michigan build some serious momentum towards a bowl season and a resurrection-type season for Rodriguez. 0-2 and the wolves will be calling for Rodriguez’s head mid-season. If he can get to a bowl, I think he’ll be around another year. If not, I think they extend the largest olive branch in history to Harbaugh and pray that he comes home.


Matt: I think Doug alluded to this earlier in the year, but hasn’t the Rich-Rod tenure at Michigan begun to feel like the Billy Gillespie era at Kentucky? I mean, there is no denying the guy was a proven winner before he got to Michigan. But for whatever reason, he just has fit in horribly. Everything about his time there…the spread offense, the lack of respect for the tradition…it all seems so, well, un-Michigan. Don’t get me wrong, if he had come out and won ballgames, I think this all would have been a non-issue. But from an outsider, I kind of liken it to if Notre Dame hired someone like Mike Leach or Rick Neuheisel. Sure they’re good coaches, but their kind of free-spirited and untraditional personalities just wouldn’t feel right on the sideline at Notre Dame.


Is it possible that Pat White made Rod look a lot better than he was? I mean that White – Slaton combo was deadly for a few years and singlehandedly won West Virginia some huge ballgames. For all the hype about White’s running ability, he could actually throw the ball and they had some big play receivers there during his time (Chris Henry and Darius Reynaud come to mind). Can Tate Forcier or Denard Robinson actually throw the ball to run a well-rounded spread offense? I haven’t seen proof of it yet – and I think that’s the primary reason why the Rich-Rod spread hasn’t taken off like it did at West Virginia.


As for this season, to me it boils down to one game – the home opener against UConn. As every ND fan now knows, UConn is a frisky well-coached team that is more than capable of walking into the Big House and winning. If UM loses that game, then goes on the road to South Bend and loses, Rich-Rod is in some serious trouble staring at 0-2 with the Big Ten grinder still to come. They get Iowa and Wisconsin at home, but have to go on the road to a rebuilding Penn State and then close the season in the Horseshoe. I’ll say Michigan pulls out an 8-4 season and saves his job with an Alamo Bowl win.


Doug: Hands down the most intriguing story of the 2010 college football season will take place all fall in Ann Arbor, Michigan. I really don't think there's a close second in fact. The winningest program in college football history is at a crossroads like they've never been at before, and I think we're going to find out very quickly in 2010 where they are headed. Back to back games against Connecticut and Notre Dame to open the season. If they start out 0-2, I don't think there's any question that Rich Rodriguez is doomed. If you can't beat UConn at home, why is there any reason to think they are making a bowl game in 2010 with ND, Sparty, Iowa, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Ohio State still coming on the schedule?? That's a 3-4 win season waiting to happen and a new coach in 2011.


Even if Michigan does come out of the first month at 3-1 or 4-0, is Rich Rodriguez going to win Big Ten games this year?? He's 3-13 in two years of Big Ten play. Is that suddenly going to change in 2010?? You can't win in the Big Ten with ZERO defense, bad tackling, bad special teams, and turnovers left and right. The Big Ten teams are just going to grind you into the ground if you try that stuff. A team like Penn State or Wisconsin or Ohio State that just comes right at you is what the Big Ten is all about. If you don't have a backbone defensively or a rugged offensive line, you're in big trouble. And if you play recklessly and put the ball on the ground, forget it.


Michigan lost five straight games to end the season in 2009 and was only competitive in one of those games. You can go ahead and say it if you're thinking it. Michigan has been the worst program in the Big 10 the last two seasons. I'm not even sure it's close.


To just make a bowl game, Michigan has to win probably 3 nonconference and 3-4 conference games. I'm not sure I even see one lock win in Big Ten play. Maybe Illinois, but they've been destroyed by Illinois the last two years. Who else?? Purdue?? Indiana?? I don't see either one as a lock.


Maybe Michigan will break out this year. Maybe they'll find a defense. Maybe Denard Robinson will be THE MAN up there. Maybe they just become a more reliable team with a year of experience. A lot of Michigan fans seem to be quietly optimistic about where this team is headed. Supposedly the team is rallying around Denard Robinson. But truthfully, I didn't think quarterback was their problem last year. I thought Forcier was actually good for most of the year. Their biggest problem was that they couldn't really run the ball, and their defense was historically bad - like guys running through paper. They gave up 30+ points in seven games last year. You can't win games doing that.


I have come to think that hiring Rich Rodriguez was the wrong move, and that the situation is unredeemable. I don't think he can win a Big Ten championship at Michigan, he's not recruiting that well, and he's a walking controversy everywhere he goes. What's the point in playing around with keeping him?? Michigan should get back to what Michigan football is all about. Great lines, tough as nails front 7, big armed pro style QB, and great skill players. Lloyd Carr won 9-10 games a year with that fomula even though he was getting old and worn out in his last 4-5 years there. With the right coach, they can get back to where they were and probably more.


That's why I think Michigan will go to Jim Harbaugh after 2010 and make the Godfather offer to get him to Ann Arbor. He's the perfect fit for that job, and the sooner the better. If they go 7-5 and stick with Rich Rodriguez, it’s prolonging the inevitable. Recruiting will tank, and he'll be a dead man walking. If you can't win in three years at a place like Michigan or at least have an absolute slew of stud recruits in the pipeline, it's never going to happen.


Harbaugh is the guy. He embraces the pro style, he's a great recruiter, he's got the bloodlines and NFL pedigree, he's smashmouth, and he's got the passion and fire and bravado to be another Bo Schembechler. He would call out Jim Tressel on the very first day and embrace the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry. Rodriguez couldn't be less interested in embracing the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry. I get the impression he'd rather just drop Ohio State from the schedule.


Jim Harbaugh vs. Brian Kelly would be a fascinating rivalry if we retain the Michigan series (are we sure that is the case??). Two fiery guys going toe-to-toe on everything from recruiting to media to gameday tactics.


Jimmy: Ann Arbor's stuck-in-the-mud syndrome isn't going away this year. While I think Dick Rod is a capable coach and will find success at his next stop, fate has frowned on his tenure. It would take a tsunami-type shift for Rodriguez to convince the fanbase (and more important, the UM powers-that-be) that he can rise to Michigan's standards. Anything short of 8 wins should be lights out for the R.R. Era. In a way, Michigan fans should hope the end comes soon in hopes to lure Jim Harbaugh back to his alma mater before the NFL lures him away from Palo Alto. Michigan is probably Harbaugh's only destination job in the college ranks.

2) Thoughts on the post-Tim Tebow era at Florida. Business as usual or a step back?? Do you think Tebow made Urban or Urban made Tebow??

Jeremy: Someone from NDNation clipped and posted the 1st series from the 2000 Stanford game the other day. Why is this pertinent? If you watch the clip closely, you’ll see a young Urban Meyer stalking the sidelines and congratulating Matt LoVecchio after the freshman led the Irish right down the field to score on the first possession of the game. Meyer famously scripted the first drive, which didn’t at all resemble any previous iteration of a Bob Davie/Kevin Rogers offense. During the drive, Meyer and LoVecchio show flashes of what’s become the famous Urban version of the spread – some read option, QB runs/draws, quick throws, etc. Granted, this was a Willingham/Baer Stanford defense, but LoVecchio (a lightly recruited QB making his first collegiate start) went through it like a hot knife through butter.


If this clip tells us anything, its that Urban can turn anyone into a serviceable QB. And John Brantley was one of the highest rated signal callers in his HS class. We might not see as many QB sneaks with Brantley, but I have no doubt that Meyer will have the Gator offense running on all cylinders by mid-October. Although Tim Tebow may have been a perfect fit for his offense, Urban Meyer is the one who makes it all click. I don’t think they’re going to miss a beat.


Matt: At this point, don’t you kind of have to give the benefit of the doubt to Urban? I mean he’s won everywhere he’s been, with all kinds of talent around him. On the other hand, he has ALWAYS had a great QB to go along with him. Even at Bowling Green, Urban was working with Josh Harris, who was an incredible dual threat QB and had a few years riding pine in the NFL. The flip side is that Harris never latched on in the NFL, and obviously the trials and tribulations of Alex Smith in the NFL have been well-documented. So the question is posed, does Urban make the QB or does the QB make coach look good.


If I learned anything in business school, it’s the value of the two words: “it depends.” You can look at the question either way and justify it. Urban gets the best out of his quarterbacks in a stat-friendly college system that appears to leave the guys unprepared for a bright NFL future. I mean the people who could look at tape and say that Tim Tebow was more NFL-prepared than Jimmy Clausen was are nuts. JC made all the throws you need to make in the pros, while Tebow was bulling people over like he was Jerome Bettis and throwing those ridiculous jump passes. If you want to project Tebow long-term, or you value his versatility, that’s fine, but don’t say with a straight face that he is a better pro prospect than a guy like Clausen.


On the other hand, there is no denying the pure talent that Meyer recruits at QB, guys who fit into his system. That’s why this year will be interesting because John Brantley appears to be a more traditional QB who will look to pass more than run. I say it’s business as usual for Florida…Urban is too smart a coach to not adjust the offense to get the most out of Brantley’s talents. And they still can out-athlete most teams they play on both sides of the ball. They might not be a national championship contender with road trips to Knoxville, Tuscaloosa and Tallahassee, but I smell another SEC East banner.


Doug: Urban Meyer's greatness in college football can be summed up in two words: Alex Smith. Look no further than that to get a feel for why Urban Meyer has won 2 national titles and a slew of BCS bowls/conference titles, etc in a very limited time span as a head coach. He turned Alex freaking Smith into the #1 overall pick in the 2006 NFL Draft. One of the more bizarre picks of all time in retrospect. A guy who had one huge year under Urban Meyer and parlayed that into a $50 million contract. More power to him, but that pick was insane. He was just some dude who got great coaching and played in an offense conducive to his run/pass skills. He should write Urban Meyer a thank you letter once a week for coming into his life when he did.


Assuming Urban Meyer is healthy and motivated (more on that in a second), there isn't even a doubt in my mind that the Florida Gators are going to remain a dominant program. The guy is 57-10 in five years at Florida with three 13 win seasons. He won a national title with Chris Leak. He went 22-2 at Utah. Why would anyone think he's not going to win big without Tim Tebow?? I keep reading these "Tebow made Urban" kinda articles/posts, and they make no sense to me.


Is Tim Tebow a legend at Florida?? Without a doubt. "The Promise" is on the wall of their stadium. He's just about the perfect fit for that offense with his running and passing skills, and his leadership skills are borderline messiah-like. But the machine will go on. Florida has great athletes up and down their roster. Urban Meyer has won with offense, defense, and special teams. It's not like they have just been winning with offense. If anything, they're better defensively and on special teams than they are on offense.


Urban Meyer's secret is an obsessive attention to detail. Florida wins because they have great athletes who tackle really well, don't miss assignments, block, take care of the little things, and play with great intensity. Watching them the last few years is really remarkable in the way that they just are relentless in attacking you.


The ONLY thing I would throw out there that gives me pause is that Urban Meyer loses his edge because of this health/nervous breakdown stuff. He is wired so tight that he really can't be this relaxed, mellow guy. If he tries that, then he's not Urban Meyer. It's like Tiger Woods. Tiger has to be "super intense, live hard, play hard, practice like an animal and be super competitive about everything from golf to gambling to women" Tiger to be a champion golfer. Anything less, and he's just another guy out there on tour. Same with Urban. If he tries to dial it back, it won't work. So that could be interesting. Guess we'll find out this year how he approaches things.


Jimmy: I expect a small step back for the Gators because Tebow's leadership at the most important position was out of this world. It permeated through the whole team, without question. But talent flocks to Gainesville like the salmon of capistrano. Urban need not worry. He's proved he can build winners with multiple QBs (see: J. Harris, A. Smith, C. Leak). 'Bama is ahead of them in the SEC, but that's probably it. Florida probably just misses out on a BCS game because of a couple close losses, but punishes whichever school they face in a New Year's Day bowl.


3) Who do you like the most as an NFL QB prospect: Jake Locker, Ryan Mallet or Andrew Luck??


Jeremy: At gunpoint, I suppose I’d go with Locker, but I don’t feel terribly confident about that pick right now. Another year with Sarkisian should help immensely, but he’s still pretty rough around the edges, and his completion %’s aren’t anything special. But he’s better than the alternatives – Mallett’s got a cannon, but a ten-cent head. What has Luck done to garner all this hype? He’s got great size and a good arm, but he spent most of last year turning around and handing off to one of the best RBs in the country.


Matt
: I’ve got to be perfectly honest. Andrew Luck is a complete unknown to me. I guess the guy was ok against ND last year, but my lasting memory of that game was Toby Gerhart tearing up the ND defense, not anything that Luck did. (Looked it up – 0 TD’s, 0 INT’s). Outside of that, I haven’t seen him play. I’m just skeptical that he could be another Trent Edwards, so for now I’m going to leave him out of this discussion.

So now the question is Locker vs. Mallett. And the answer is clear as day. Ryan Mallett, Ryan Mallett, Ryan Mallett. He is the traditional drop-back pocket passer that thrives in the NFL. Seriously, when was the last dual threat QB that has thrived in the league? Michael Vick? I don’t know, maybe I’m overstating it, or underestimating Locker’s ability. But it seems like every Locker highlight I saw he was making plays with his legs, not his arm. He threw 22 td’s and 11 int’s last year. Decent, but nothing jaw-dropping. I’ll admit that I haven’t seen enough of Locker to buy into all the hype that he is the #1 pick, but if you’re forcing me to pick, I’ll go Ryan Mallett


Doug
: Well, I'm torn on a couple of these guys, but not all three. I'll eliminate Andrew Luck for one reason. I don't know anything about this guy!! When did Andrew Luck start getting so much hype?? I don't even remember him at all last year, and ND played Stanford and gave up 45 points to them. I admittedly had a few cocktails in me that night, so I went back and looked at the box score to see how Andrew Luck performed:

14 for 20 for 198 yards, 0 tds, 0 INTS.


I know Toby Gerhart destroyed us that day, but those are really pedestrian numbers. In fact, Andrew Luck's numbers are pretty pedestrian all the way throughout the year. I'll n
eed to watch this guy in 2010 more closely to see what all the fuss is about. Kiper seems to think he could be the #1 overall player. I'm cautious about him for now.

I really enjoyed watching Ryan Mallett and that Arkansas offense last year, and I think he is going to have a monster year in 2010. I could see him throwing for 4000 yards with 40 touchdowns or something like that. Flat out crazy numbers, and a fantasy superstar. But I don't really know much about his makeup or personality, so I'm not sure what to make of him. Is he a leader?? Or the next Ryan Leaf (maybe it's just the Ryan thing). I need to watch him more this year.


I guess I'll go chalk here and go with Jake Locker just because I was impressed with hi
m against ND last year (note that people said this about Jamarcus Russell, so that could be a bad sign). I just liked how he carried himself, and I thought he made a ton of big plays against us. He also made some great plays where guys dropped balls right in their hands. His INT numbers worry me I guess, but I like Steve Sarkisian as a coach. I said last year that Locker reminded me of the right-handed Mark Brunell. A really strong guy who can move but also can throw accurately. I consider that comparison to be a compliment as a Bengals fan who watched Brunell a lot back in the 90s.

Jury is out on this question though for me. I'm glad we get another year to watch them before the NFL Draft.


Jimmy
:
I'm feelin' Luck(y). Great QBs have a name and vibe to them & Luck has that intangible in spades. He's got an excellent mentor in Captain Comeback bringing him along. He's only a sophomore, so by the time he enter the NFL, he could be special. I like the moxie of Locker and his tutelage under Sarkisian. It's not a stretch to see him as a decent starter in the league, but he didn't make the jump from '08 to '09 that I expected. Mallett has the prototypical frame of a stud QB, but what he has in arm strength he lacks in leadership and managing a game. I think he'll fare better than OfftheMarcus Russell, but that's not saying much. His best case scenario is a Jeff Georgian career, if he can grow the requisite 'stache-mullet combo.

4) How did you feel about conference realignment? What conferences/schools benefited?? Do you think this is the end?? Will the Big 12 exist in five years??


Jeremy:
I could really care less, as long as ND stays out of the mess. Nebraska probably benefited financially and competitively, but at what cost? They’ve lost the natural rivalries with Oklahoma, Texas and all the other Big 12 teams and the fanbase is going to have to do some serious traveling to get to these away games. But I do imagine the Big Ten Network money will probably help ease the transition, and if the conference is divided as many are suggesting, Nebraska should have a relatively easy road to the conference title game.

The biggest winner was probably Texas, who solidified their standing as the biggest of the big dogs in college football. The Horns and the Irish appear to hold all the cards in the realignment game, and its tough to see too many (seismic) changes happening without those two folding their respective hands.

Matt: The whole business of conferences going after schools for their geography rather than performance is a little unsettling for me. I mean the Pac-10 was slobbering for Colorado not because of anything they’ve done on the field (for the most part they’ve been dreadful since the turn of the century), but because of access to the Denver market. Umm, ok I guess. Texas A&M was reportedly being courted by the SEC. What??!! That is a second tier program that isn’t even close to top dog in their own state, but it would give access to the football hotbed of Texas for the SEC. I mean, we all know that college football is a business first and foremost, but this whole conference business was just an eye-opener into how much college football is not about celebrating amateur athletes and more about making dollars for the suits.


With that said, I think there were a few clear winners. The biggest is Utah. I mean, they have parlayed a nice little seven year run into a place in the Pac-10, where they are now seated with the big boys. I think the Pac-10 as a whole is a loser though. They went from pulling off a coup of stealing Texas and Oklahoma to a respectable Utah team that lacks national cache, and Colorado, who appears to be going nowhere fast. I like what commissioner Larry Scott is trying to do with the league, with the rebranding and the new logo and the coaches all meeting in New York City, and with a new television package the conference could be headed for bigger and better things. I’m as big of a college football fan as any, but I hardly know anything about the Pac-10 teams outside of USC. They’re just never on the East Coast, unless Oregon State or somebody like that is playing the Thursday night ESPN game.


I’m reluctant to put Nebraska into the winner column as a lot of people have done. Ok, so they felt overlooked in the Texas-centric Big 12. But is the Big 10 going to get them any more respect. When people think Big 10, they think Ohio State and Michigan and more recently Penn State. I guess they have a nice natural rival now with Iowa, but I don’t know what the move really did for them. Seems lateral to me. (And please no BS about the academics, etc. Blah blah blah. This was a football / revenue move, and even if academics did enter into the equation in some small percentage, I could care less.)


Doug: I think the big winners are ND and the Big 10. For ND, the status quo is to our benefit. Independent in football, NBC contract, and Big East for other sports. As long as we stay independent in football, I don't care that much about anything else. I wavered on this subject for awhile, but I've come to believe that our entire identity is wrapped around our independence: our fans, our national profile, our national recruiting, and our ability to schedule marquee games around the country. Without independence, none of that exists.


I also think the Big Ten came out like bandits in this thing. Are you kidding me?? Nebraska?? I almost feel like people are underselling this. Nebraska is a huge addition to the Big Ten. One of the 10-15 most prestigious programs. Sure, they are a Midwestern program and may not have the naturally huge recruiting base that some other powers have, but it's still Nebraska. Players are going to want to go there because football means so much to that community. As long as they spend the dollars on recruiting and developing relationships, Nebraska will remain a strong program. Their fans are second to none in the nation. People in Big 10 country are in for a shock when 25,000 Nebraska fans try to take over their stadium and the Big 10 championship game in a couple years.


Speaking of the Big Ten championship game, that's another big plus for the Big Ten. How great is that going to be?? For a guy living in Ohio, I'm really excited about it. I'm already tentatively penciling myself (ok, pen) in to go to Indy next December for the first Big Ten title game. I think that would be a blast in a great "big event" town. It's about time the Midwest got a big championship game showcase like this.


I also feel like the Big Ten dealt a huge blow to the Big 12. The Big 12 has lost a considerable amount of prestige. No more Big 12 championship game, no Nebraska, not as much depth in the league, fewer media markets. The Big 12 has basically become a Texas-dominated league. Nothing wrong with that, but they are even more regionalized than they were before.


If anything, that's probably why Texas reached out to ND about a series. We offer them a national stage that they aren't going to get too often in the Big 12 anymore.


I also think the Big 12 is here to stay for awhile. Where else are Kansas and Iowa State and Kansas State going?? Even if they are getting table scraps from Texas, it's still better than joining the Mountain West or the WAC. They will probably cling for dear life to this league. The only way it breaks up is if Texas bounces, and Texas has too good of a situation to do that any time soon.


Jimmy: Realignment was inevitable as greed dictates these decisions more than anything. At least the moves made sense for the most part. Nebraska's a good conference fit for the Big 10. Utah and Colorado are solid state school additions to the Pac 10, though the 2 divisions disrupts a good thing with all conference teams playing each other. I like the Big 10 initiative to play 9 league games a year. The Big East is unsustainable - I expect that breakup to start another domino effect in a few years. This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of money-grabbing "non-profit" universities jockeying for position in the ever-growing goldmine that is college football. In 10-15 years, the conference landscape will be radically different.



5) Who is your sleeper team in 2010 that is flying under the radar, but could end up a top 10 (top 5?) team??


Jeremy: I don’t think they’re going to make it into the Top 10, but the Middies could be a Top 20 team by the time the Irish roll into the Meadowlands towards the end of October. Ricky Dobbs runs the option as well as anyone not named Tommie Frazier. The schedule doesn’t provide too many opportunities for big wins, but victories over Wake and Maryland could allow Navy to sneak into the Top 25. What a story!!


Matt: I really thought hard about this one, and I was looking for a few things. Do they have a solid QB coming back? Is the schedule manageable? How was the defense last year? With that being said, my two sleepers for 2010 are…


South Florida. Shocker I know, as anyone who knows me is aware that I have been on the USF bandwagon for a few years. But hear me out. I was a huge Jim Leavitt fan, and think he probably got a raw deal, but I see no drop-off moving to ol’ Skip Holtz. I mean Skip turned around East Carolina, which is an incredibly tough place to win. USF has the always exciting BJ Daniels back at QB. I swear, that guy is just dripping with God-given ability. I watched a lot of their games last year, and he made some incredible plays with his arm and legs. Threw for almost 2000 yards and rushed for over 1,000 in his first year as a starter. So the QB position is in solid hands.


The USF defense ranked a surprising 24th nationally last year, so they should be ok in that department despite losing manchild Jason Pierre-Paul (watch out for that guy in the NFL). Plus, that roster is just oozing…um athleticism…and dreads and tats. You get my drift.


And finally, the schedule. The nonconference is three cupcakes and a biggie. September 11th, in the Swamp, against the mighty Gators. Wow. You better believe I’ll be in front of a TV for that one. No better chance to make a national statement early in the season. Kind of like what they did against Auburn a few years back when they made that run all the way up to #2 in the country. After that game, there are road trips to Morgantown, the Queen City and Miami, so in no way is the schedule a breeze. But there are chances to win big games.


South Carolina. Hold your laughs please. Sure, I know this one might be a little out there, and by sleeper I don’t think I mean that they will be a Top 5 team, but the opportunity is there. First of all, Stephen Garcia is still there for what seems like his 5th season even though he’s only a junior. He wasn’t great last year, but still has that potential as a big time though oft-troubled recruit.


Second, the defense was a stellar 15th in the country last year, often times keeping them in games they had no business winning, namely against Alabama and Florida. And in all likelihood, this is the swan song for Stephen A Spurrier, so maybe there is a little extra motivation there. Home games against Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee and Arkansas certainly give the Cocks a few chances for some marquee games. Road trips to Auburn, the Swamp and Death Valley (Clemson) certainly give them a chance for this prediction to look foolish.


(Side note: Isn’t it odd that there are two stadiums known as Death Valley? I did a little research to see whose was named first, and there is a bitter discrepancy between LSU and Clemson fans. Depending on who you believe, Clemson appears to have had the nickname first, with the coach of Presbyterian College bestowing the Death Valley nickname in 1948 because his teams routinely got walloped there. Later, LSU fans began calling Tiger Stadium Deaf Valley because of how loud it was, but it morphed among writers and tv people into Death Valley. However, according to LSU and their message boards, the Death Valley nickname at Clemson didn’t stick until the ‘60’s, when Coach Frank Howard had a rock from the actual Death Valley in California installed outside the Clemson locker room – what is now known as Howard’s Rock. By then, according to LSU, the stadium in Baton Rouge was already firmly entrenched as Death Valley. So who knows…)


Doug: I'll start with an overrated team: Iowa. Mark this down. Iowa will underachieve this year. They had a slew of close calls last year, and I see that coming back to bite them. I don't trust Rickey Stanzi in the slightest.


I also think Pitt will underachieve. Nice team, but I think they are a little overrated. New QB (admittedly Bill Stull was horrible), they replace some big uglies up front. People are hyping up Pitt this year, but I could see them at 2-3 after five games. BRUTAL nonconference schedule. @Utah, Miami(FL), and @Notre Dame. Yikes!


Here's my super sleeper:


The Florida State Seminoles


Just got a feeling that Jimbo Fisher is about to restore the luster in Tallahassee this year. Florida State's offense was actually really good last year, and I think Christian Ponder could be a major sleeper Heisman candidate. Vegas Insider has Florida State at +-8 wins this year. Tough tough schedule with @Oklahoma, @Miami, and Florida on the schedule, but I could see them getting the "over" there. In fact, they are the one team I could see coming out of nowhere to be a top 10(5?) team.


If you watched Florida State's bowl game against West Virginia this past year, you could see the formation of a team that might come charging out of the gates in 2010. I was impressed with them. Honestly, it would not shock me if Florida State went to Norman and knocked off the Sooners in week 2.


Florida State has always had the talent. They bring in top 10 recruiting classes every year. Jimbo Fisher is recruiting like crazy already, and it looks like they might be back on the upswing again soon. If Randy Shannon doesn't deliver this year, Florida State might blow past Miami for ACC supremacy going forward.


By the way, September 11 is just an incredible day of college football. Look at these matchups:


South Florida-Florida

Florida State-Oklahoma

Miami (FL) - Ohio State

Notre Dame-Michigan

Oregon-Tennessee

Penn State-Alabama


Are you kidding me?? That is as good a collection of nonconference games as I've ever seen in one day. If you're really feeling frisky, throw in USC-Virginia at 10:30pm. Might be watching that late into the night at Between the Buns.


Jimmy: A couple shots in the dark. I like UNC to contend for the ACC title. Butch Davis has playmakers on both sides of the ball. A stout defense that ranked 13th overall in scoring against is anchored by Marvin Austin and Robert Quinn on the line. A capable offensive attack led by T.J. Yates complements them. Look for Greg Little to emerge as a deep threat, ala Hakeem Nicks. The Tar Heels start with a bang against LSU in Atlanta and follow it up with Georgia Tech at home. We'll know right away if they mean business.

I also like Wisconsin. Led by a veteran QB in Scott Tolzien and Big John Clay acting like Ron Dayne incarnate, the Badgers are a sleeping giant. Granted, they're ranked just outside the top 10 to start so they're not exactly sneaking up on people, but they still fly under the radar on the national scene. They get the Buckeyes at home in prime time and don't have Penn State on the schedule. Send the Grateful Red spilling into the streets of Madison with a rousing victory (and avoid a letdown the following week at Iowa) and the Bret Bielema could cannonball into the BCS pool.


Part 2 to come Friday...

August 03, 2010

Thoughts on Notre Dame recruiting, ND-Texas, Mike Mayock, Enrique Iglesias, Time Warner, and why the SEC has produced a slew of NFL busts lately

Before getting to some other thoughts, how about these Notre Dame-Texas rumors from super insider Chip Brown?? Sounds like it could be a home and home deal (or more?) starting in 2015. WOW. The Jack Swarbrick era!! The man listened to the fans, and now he's out there just hammering out one monster deal after another. Suddenly, our scheduling problems are about to become a distant memory. Oklahoma in 2012-2013, Miami in 2012, 2016, and 2017, and now Texas in 2015 and beyond. We should be set for minimum of three big games a year, and maybe more. I fully expect ticket demand to rocket back up in the next five years with all these big games on the horizon.

Texas needs this game for the same reasons we do. If you want to be a champion, you need to win marquee games. You can't just coast through a season where you only play one big game. Texas was looking at future schedules with just Oklahoma on there and no Big 12 championship game. Same with us for Michigan and USC. Two programs with uncertain futures. We needed to solidify the top end of our schedules, and now it looks like that is what Swarbrick is going out and doing. If these rumors about a ten year deal with Texas are true, we won't have to worry about our schedules for a long time.

Congrats to Jack Swarbrick if this goes down. He took over an absolute mess from Kevin White, and has delivered exactly what the fans have been clamoring for. He seems to understand what the Notre Dame brand is all about: Independence, great play on the field, and compelling schedules. Good to see that we are finally headed in the right direction.

Some other thoughts:

(1) Very interesting hire by NBC to bring in Mike Mayock as the new color analyst for Notre Dame football. I honestly don't know anything about this guy, but I kinda like it for two reasons.

(a) As someone who loves the NFL Draft, I like that Mayock will bring a real personnel angle to the game. It's a lot better than the cliches and generalizations that you hear from most other analysts (including Pat Haden). Mayock presumably will bring a deeper level of knowledge to a broadcast. If you've ever listened to Mel Kiper talk about college football, he is probably the most knowledgeable college football fan out there. Why?? Because he watches a ridiculous amount of film. Kiper has such a deep mental vault of football personnel that he can always point out little things about a team or a player that no one else notices.

I'm picturing Mayock breaking down players and giving some insights into our roster and opposing rosters. I would enjoy listening to that. If he wants to tell me all about Utah's starting defensive end and how he's a future 2nd round pick, I love that stuff. Sign me up.

Then again, we play Western Michigan, Tulsa, and Army at "home" on NBC this year. I'm guessing Mayock will not be discussing the NFL Draft too often during any of those telecasts.

(b) The other thing I like is that he's sort of an unknown who will make his name through ND football telecasts. All of the other rumored guys out there are basically retreads from other networks or random ND personalities. Even though I would have liked Theismann, he's a retread. People were worn out on Theismann five years ago. Theismann to NBC was one of those ideas that would have been good on paper, but then not as fun when it's week 9 and he's retelling the exact same story for the 9th week in a row.

Mayock is a complete blank slate. 95% of sports fans have never even heard of him. Maybe more. Now he's the voice of ND football. If he does a good job, he's sort of "our guy" instead of some hired gun. It's like baseball teams. There's just something about drafting or developing a guy that attaches you to him over a free agent signing. I like Scott Rolen and all, but I'm not as invested in him as I am in Joey Votto or Mike Leake or Jay Bruce. The homegrown guys are the ones you most identify with your team.

Three minor concerns:

(1) How much experience does he have calling games?? I've heard that he does exhibition games and some college games, but I've never heard him. Not too worried about this.

(2) Are ND fans going to flip out if he criticizes one of our players??? I could be wrong, but Mayock seems like one of those guys who will probably just give his objective opinion on a player or something happening in a game. If he questions Crist or criticizes Manti Te'o, are our fans going to be able to handle it?? We have a pretty thin-skinned fanbase. People freaked out about Pat Haden even though Haden sung our praises every week and never said anything even remotely critical about one of our players in 15 years of calling games.

Our fans have asked for a better and more-informed analyst for years. Now that we have one, are people going to be able to take it if he's opinionated?? Keep in mind that some ND fans still don't like Collinsworth because he said some critical things about ND players. Considering that Collinsworth might be the best color analyst in the NFL, that's not a real good reflection on our fanbase's taste for announcers.

(3) Is he being brought in purely for college football reasons or for cross-promotional reasons for the NBC NFL telecasts?? Using him to talk NFL during ND broadcasts was the first thing that came to mind for me. That would be a massive disappointment, but wouldn't shock me. NBC never shies away from promoting all their NFL broadcasts during the ND telecast. Are they going to tell Mayock that he needs to hype the upcoming NFL game every time they mention it in a promo?? It would be annoying if we're in the middle of the ND action, and Mayock is breaking down Eli Manning vs. the Eagles defense in anticipation of the next day's Sunday night game.

(2) Seven random thoughts:

(1) Everywhere I go, I feel like I'm hearing about Miami lately. Lebron, Jersey Shore, etc. When was the last time so many people were paying attention to the city of Miami?? I know South Beach has always been on the radar as a cultural mecca, but 2010 has become the Year of Miami so far.

(2) Is Enrique Iglesias "back"?? Guess the test is whether "I Like It' makes the Backer playlist. I'll say it does. Multiple times.

(3) I'm trying to figure out why Favre retired. This is the first time in years where I actually think he SHOULD come back and wanted him back. The guy was great last year, and the Vikes should have made the Super Bowl. They would be right back in the mix this year. Now, the Vikes are a hundred times less interesting with Sage Rosenfels.

Maybe he feels like he went out on a high note with a great year?? I guess I could see that. Favre sort of rejuvenated his legacy last year with people like me. If he comes back this year and stinks, he'd sort of leave on a bad note. As of right now, he leaves with me wanting more. Maybe that's what he wants.

(4) As much as I love football being back, the endless holdout/training camp controversy stories really get old. Haynesworth, no Haynesworth. I don't care.

(5) Joe Paterno.....yikes. Rough shape. I mean, that reporter had to raise the "are you going to coach until you die" question, right??

(6) Time Warner.....seriously?? Are you really going to try to cry poor again when it comes to programming?? Why does every other cable network have no problem with these programming deals but yet I have to read stories about how you might not carry ESPN during the football season??

I don't care what you have to do. If you don't have ESPN, why am I even subscribing to your product?? That's one of the only channels that I actually watch.

I have no sympathy for cable companies. You're a logistics company. If you want to cut costs, then let me pick my cable package ala carte. I watch maybe 10-15 channels on cable: ESPN (2, U, News, etc), Fox Sports Ohio, HBO, MTV, a few news channels, maybe 2-3 others. Plus, the major networks. That's pretty much it. My wife might watch another 5-10 channels of stuff.

Why can't we just pick our own channels?? I don't watch 95% of the channels I currently get. Why not just let me pick out 25-30 channels that I really want (add in NFL Network and a few others that I don't get right now) and personalize my cable package?? Don't tell me that I can't have ESPN when I'm paying for 500 other channels that I've never watched. I would happily give up all of those channels for ESPN.

Time Warner pulls this stunt every year. Holding your customers hostage is not a good long term business strategy. Look at Blockbuster. They tried to squeeze every penny out of that company instead of creating a long term strategy to succeed. If you don't stay ahead of the curve by delivering a quality product, people will eventually ditch you.

If football season starts and Time Warner has decided to fight ESPN and keep the channel off the air, that will be the last day I'm a Time Warner subscriber. Too many options in 2010 from other cable companies to keep playing their game every year.

(7) Sam Bradford. Oh man. Did anyone not cringe at seeing that contract?? I know it's "market value," but I almost feel bad for St. Louis at this point. I know what it's like to root for a team that perenially drafts in the top 5 every year, and it's vicious cycle after awhile. Unless you hit on All Pro guys in the draft, you're basically forced to overpay guys every year with those absurd rookie contracts. Tying up money in a handful of players before they even take a snap is always a killer for roster flexibility purposes.

Look at St. Louis' drafts in the last five years:

2010 - Sam Bradford - #1 overall
2009 - Jason Smith - #2
2008 - Chris Long - #2
2007 - Adam Carriker - #13
2006 - Tye Hill - #15

Ouch. Chris Long is decent, but more lunch pail than absolute stud. Jason Smith isn't even starting at this point. St. Louis has quietly become the worst NFL franchise in football. Just one bad pick after another, and several of them making big big dollars.

Now throw in Bradford at $75 million. Maybe he'll turn out great, but he's a complete wildcard coming into the NFL as far as I'm concerned. He padded his resume against swiss cheese Big 12 defenses, and now he has injury issues. Should be interesting to see what he looks like.

(3) For those of you who follow college football recruiting fairly closely, you've probably heard the name Steve Clarkson. Clarkson is this QB guru out in Southern California who suddenly has become the go-to personal coach for every stud high school pro style quarterback recruit in the country. He's like the David Leadbetter/Nick Bollitieri of high school football. Seems like every year there is a story about a 15 year old kid who moves to California to work under Clarkson. This year, there was even a 13 year old kid who has "committed" to USC and is pseudo-represented by Clarkson.

Anyway, even though Clarkson has produced some of the biggest names in college football, there are three guys who most people associate him with:

Matt Leinart
Jimmy Clausen
Matt Barkley

Pretty star-studded list there, but take a closer peek and think about all three of those guys. Don't all of them have a lot to prove this year?? And by proxy, couldn't you argue that Clarkson's reputation as this QB guru sort of depends on whether those guys make the leap into true team leaders??

I think there are a lot of mixed feelings about all those guys. Leinart had an incredible college career, but he's been a wash so far in the NFL. Clausen had a very productive college career, but his NFL future also seems uncertain. He had so much hype coming out of high school, but 15-21 in three years at ND didn't exactly cement his reputation as an all-time great in college football. Barkley also came into college football with all kinds of hype and had a pretty good first year, but it will be interesting to see if he can be the guy who leads USC back to prominence.

There's sort of a "finished-product" feel to the Steve Clarkson tree of players. Maybe that's not his fault since he coached them up as youngsters, but I wonder if people will start to question the Steve Clarkson proteges eventually. They get all this private coaching in junior high and high school, they start for 2-3 years at Oaks Christian or some other LA feeder school, they step into early playing time in college football due to their readiness and openings on the depth chart, and eventually have productive/elite college careers. But what happens when other guys catch up to them or they find themselves in a fight for playing time at the highest level?? The answer to that question remains in doubt.

Anyway, big year for Clarkson. He has sort of made his reputation with those three guys, so it will be interesting to see how they all do. Leinart is expected to start, Clausen is going to battle for a job with Matt Moore, and Barkley is a somewhat seasoned sophomore. I'll throw in Nick Montana as well. Another guy who moved to LA to be closer to Clarkson and ended up starting at Oaks Christian. Now he's at Washington. Should be interesting to see if he steps right in after Jake Locker graduates from UW.

One final note on Clausen. I'm really glad he got into camp early. I always thought that was a HUUUUUUUUUUUGE mistake by Brady Quinn to hold out in Cleveland. It cost him his entire rookie year of development, and I don't think he ever truly got on solid ground with the Browns because of it. Maybe he never would have worked out in Cleveland, but starting out behind the eight ball didn't help. I'm a huge believer in the "get to camp early" theory with rookies. Get in there, bond with your teammates, embrace the culture of The League, and start getting reps. I'm glad Clausen is in Carolina early. He's got a chance to win that job in his rookie season if he performs.

(4) Speaking of NFL players who showed up late to camp and have killed their development.....Mr. Andre Smith!! The posterchild for the fat lineman who sat on his fat butt all summer holding out, got hurt immediately when he showed up in camp, never got in sync with the team, and now has lingering conditioning/injury problems that have seeped into his second year with the team and probably will lead to a stint on the PUP list for the second straight year. I'm beginning to wonder if he will ever amount to anything in the NFL.

Anyway, Andre Smith's woes got me thinking about something. Is it time to start questioning whether drafting the best available SEC player is still always a good idea?? Like most diehard college football fans, I have worshipped at the altar of the SEC for a long time now. The SEC teams play the best football. It's plain as day to anyone with a pair of eyeballs. I've lived in Ohio most of my life and pull for ND and the Big Ten teams, but that first SEC game I watch on television every year is always an eye-opener and an unfriendly reminder that those SEC teams are playing a different caliber of football than what I am used to.

Logically, I have always assumed that the dominance of the SEC would just carry over to the NFL, and have advocated for the Bengals to draft the best available SEC player every single year. Give me some thug from LSU or Georgia or Florida or Auburn or Alabama who can run and play explosive football, and I'm usually pretty happy with that pick. Ditto for any guy from USC. I don't want some slow white boy from Iowa when there's a 280 pound beast from LSU out there who runs a 4.5 40 on the board.

I think I'm still scarred by the Justin Smith era in Cincinnati. We drafted that guy #4 overall out of Missouri back in 2001 as this hard-working lunch pail guy with a high motor and great character, and yet I watched him get shoved around by NFL offensive linemen for seven years. Sure he was working hard, but anyone can work hard and get 0 sacks. "Lunch pail" is code for "slow and unathletic." From that point on, I've always preferred to go for the best athlete available. If you want to win in the NFL, you need difference-makers.

Lately, I am beginning to question this "draft exclusively from the SEC" strategy though. Alabama has produced Andre Smith and Terrance Cody in the last two years. Two guys who had very productive college careers and have shown up wildly out of shape in camp to the point where they literally can't even be on the field. LSU has produced a litany of first round busts in the last 5-6 years. Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Jamarcus Russell, Dwayne Bowe (ouch, sorry KC), etc.

There's been one sort of overriding problem with all of these guys. Just a complete lack of dedication or work ethic once they've signed an NFL contract. Get that first Cadillac Escalade, get away from Nick Saban or some other taskmaster college coach, and suddenly they turn into unmotivated bums.

Almost seems like a higher percentage of these types of guys come from the SEC than the other conferences. I feel like the Bengals have been better off recently drafting guys from the Big Ten and the Pac 10 than the SEC. For all the talent in that league, I've reached the point where I'm leery of drafting SEC guys in the first round.

Fat NFL players never cease to amaze me. How hard is it to show up to camp in shape?? That's all you have to do ALL OFFSEASON!! Is it really that hard to get on a treadmill once a day and lift some weights and not polish off an entire buffet for dinner??

(5) Monster recruiting week for ND football. As strong a week on The Trail as we've had in a couple of years. Suddenly this class has really started to fill out, and some trends have become apparent.

(1) Landing Aaron Lynch and Justice Hayes pretty much puts aside any concerns about Kelly's ability to bring in the elite national recruits that Weis had success recruiting. Lynch had offers from just about every big boy school in the country (Bama, Ohio State, Florida, Florida State, Miami, etc). If Kelly can go into Florida and grab a guy like Lynch right out from under Urban Meyer and Jimbo Fisher and Nick Saban, that's good enough for me.

(2) This class has 16 guys right now. 10 on defense, 5 on offense, and one kicker. How about that?? Pretty obvious at this point that Kelly has made it a priority to build up numbers on the defensive side of the ball, especially in the front seven. We've already brought in six defensive ends in this class.

Kelly's philosophy for recruiting confirms what I've come to believe about college football in the last five or so years. College football at the elite level is all about your defensive line. Not only do you need high-end guys (Aaron Lynch types) who can wreak havoc, but you also need serious depth on the d-line. These days, the top programs are rotating 8-10 guys a game on the d-line. I watched Ohio State play like nine guys regularly on their defensive line last year. You got waves of fresh guys, you can mix and match to create tough matchups, and you have bodies in case of injury. Plus, you create all kinds of competition, so guys are always battling for playing time.

Your defense starts up front. If you can stone the run, you set up 3rd and longs and can bring in a slew of defensive ends/OLBs to create pressure. If you can't stop the run, you're screwed. How many times did we see a Charlie Weis defense wilt in the 4th quarter because the other team had been pounding the ball all game long on the ground and finally started breaking through?? It was the old Jerome Bettis Pittsburgh Steelers game plan. Just pound those 3-4 yard runs and turn them into 8-9 yard runs in the 4th quarter.

Weis' teams never had any depth up front. Even at full strength (which never happens in football), we could barely fill out a two deep. Right now, Kelly has set us up to have ten or so guys who can be the foundation for the defensive line.

This is how you build a team. Even though Kelly has a reputation for being an offensive coach, he's a head coach first. If you want to win in college football, you have to play great defense. The best programs all have elite defenses virtually every year: SC, Florida, Alabama, Texas, Ohio State, Oklahoma. You can't be an elite team or win a BCS game without it.

(3) The pattern of bringing in big tall frames continues with these latest signings. Lynch is the 4th guy who is 6'6" or taller in this 2011 class. Every single guy in the front seven is 6'3" or taller.

Kelly talked over and over about this "big skill" thing, and he's gone out and delivered. He wants big guys who can put on weight but not lose a lot of quickness. I expect guys like Carrico/Springmann to maybe even get into the mix at OT someday with their size. It's a new philosophy, but one that makes a lot of sense. Not a lot of finished products in this class. He wants guys with room to grow.

If you've watched ND live in the last five years or so, we are not a very physically-imposing team. I remember sitting fairly close to the action at the Pitt game last year, and was blown away by how much smaller we looked than them, especially on the lines. PITT!! It's not like I'm talking about LSU or something. This is a mid-level Big East team.

(4) We've brought in four recruits in the last week, and there's almost a "you better get on board if you want a spot" feel to this class all of the sudden. Momentum has really picked up. Heck, Jalen Brown literally committed out of nowhere. Big fan of Jalen Brown by the way. If Bo Pelini likes you, that's good enough for me.

Kelly has filled out 3/4 of this class before the start of fall practice. Seems like he can afford to be pretty selective with the last 4-5 scholarship spots. We might as well wait on all the big fish left, hold open spots for them, and then quietly scout things out in case there are a couple late bloomers. Ideally, we could land at least 1 stud receiver to pair up with Tai-Ler Jones someday, a stud safety, one more OL, and then 1-2 others. If we could land this Savon Huggins guy, I'm in. Another top 100 RB is always a good thing.

Add all that up, and that sounds like a top 10ish class to me. No QB, but we're right in the mix for every stud 2012 QB out there. Probably going to get a 5 star in that class, so I'm not real worried about QB. Other than that, we got major upgrades at OL, DE, secondary, TE, and hopefully a couple explosive skill guys at RB and WR.

July 28, 2010

Summer in South Bend: Thoughts on Eddy Street Commons, The Mark, the ND-Miami series, and the Warren Golf Course experience at Notre Dame.

Can't believe we've been running this site for five years, and no one has dropped a review of the Warren Golf Course experience at Notre Dame!! Color me embarrassed! It's a slap in the face to Ben Crenshaw and the beautiful course that he built on the north side of the Notre Dame campus back in 2004. It's not like we don't mention Warren at least once a week on this site. The least we can do is write a piece on the joys of playing it. And no I'm not fixing for free greens fees or anything (ok, maybe a little. Specifically September 12 around 8:30am).

I went to a wedding in South Bend over the weekend, so I figured what better time to write up a Warren golf review than right now in the middle of the dog days of summer before football practice gets underway. Before getting to the golf, a few things to mention:

(1) Eddy Street Commons! Had a chance to check out the progress on Saturday after the wedding, and actually was fairly impressed with what I saw. A few places are open (Chipotle, Five Guys, a pizza place, satellite ND bookstore, fitness center, etc), and other things appear to be moving along. I won't say it's going to be the greatest entertainment district this side of Chicago or anything like that, but it's going to be a good project when it finally gets done. It's far and away the best real estate development that has been built in South Bend in ages, and the closest thing to an actual main strip that we have seen at ND. If you go up to South Bend, there's not exactly a slew of decent options for casual food other than Grape Road. You pretty much have on-campus options and dive bars.

Is this thing a little stale in terms of character?? I guess you could say that. It's a pretty generic development, but one that you see on a lot of campus areas these days. They have something very similar to Eddy Street Commons on the Ohio State campus with a lot of the same shops and with housing above the store fronts. I think college campuses like these projects because they are contained and predictable and easier to manage than a bunch of independent places.

Some mild questions/concerns though:

(a) When are the two planned restaurants actually going to be built??

We eagerly parked our car on Saturday and walked over to check out the new restaurants that we had been hearing about. One of the places is an Irish pub called Kildares. Sounds like a pretty good place. Probably a Fado/Claddagh type knockoff, but a place where you can get a decent sandwich and a pint on a Friday night or maybe get a bite after an ND game. Good safe Irish pub. Perfect fit at ND.

The other place is a little more intriguing (I think?). It's called The Mark. Here is the website for it and here's a description for The Mark on the Eddy Street Commons website.

Opening soon The Mark at Eddy Street Commons. A modern, upscale version of a classic American diner. Imagine an American diner with a vibrant big city appeal and you've hit The Mark. Quality food, healthier options and menu with a gourmet twist. The Mark will also feature a separate bar with a full selection of adult libations. The Mark will offer breakfast, lunch & dinner, 7 days a week.

Wait, are we still in South Bend?? No dirty floors or drinks out of a plastic cup?? We actually took a peek inside, and it seems to resemble a legitimate place. The sort of place you'd see in a nice outdoor shopping mall area in the suburbs, and there's a Blue Martini type bar in the main area (somewhere Tiger Woods just started looking into flights to South Bend).

Anyway, color me a little intrigued. Would I go there on a Friday night before a game?? Maybe. Would I eat there after a game?? Absolutely. I mean, I love the Backer, but it could be a fun new vibe in South Bend. Heck, if the team stinks, I might just go to The Mark on Saturday afternoons and pretend that football doesn't even exist. You know that Deutsche Bank Classic will be rocking at The Mark!

All I know is that they better make a good Old-Fashioned! I know two people who are eagerly looking forward to their first Old-Fashioned at The Mark, and will be bitterly disappointed if that thing doesn't meet their high standards.

And how excited are the USC fans going to be when they show up to South Bend in the fall of 2011 and see The Mark?? A place where they can finally feel comfortable. The shrimp cocktails, margaritas, West Coast Cocktails(!), cosmopolitans, chardonnays, and martinis will be flowing that weekend.

Only one problem. Neither place is finished! What the heck?? We peeked in and saw nothing but ladders. Both places were practically empty. When are they planning on finishing these two places?? Hopefully both are ready for football season.

(b) Is a sports bar going in?? -- That area is screaming out for a decent Jerome Bettis Grille 36 kinda place. Just begging for it. A good sports bar with decent food and a nice bar area with a ton of tvs. Yes, Between the Buns is the greatest sports bar in all of the land, but even their cocktails come in 32oz. plastic cups. The Buns is a great place, but it's a college bar. A school like ND that has so much passion for sports would be a great fit for a more modern and stylish sports bar. I know it would be in direct competition with Legends, but Legends isn't even really a sports bar (or fun for that matter).

I think Eddy Street Commons needs an anchor sports bar with good indoor/outdoor seating to really create some buzz in that entertainment district. Slap a celebrity name on it (Theismann??), and we're good to go.

(2) I went to an event the other night in Columbus with Coach Chuck Martin of the Notre Dame football staff. Couldn't have been more impressed with him. Very intense guy, high-energy, looked like he would tear a guy to shreds for making a mental mistake. The perfect coach to add to our defense. Sounds like he has really been working the DBs hard, and had some good things to say about Walls and McCarthy and others.

You can really tell that he is thrilled to death to be coaching at Notre Dame. I know all these guys say this stuff, but he grew up in Chicago and rooted for ND. And his brother went to ND. I'm always happy to have a guy who is going to drink the kool-aid and really be able to state with enthusiasm to recruits what makes ND a special place to play football. Anything better than the Willingham era is a good thing on the recruiting front.

These guys just really believe in Brian Kelly. All Coach Martin did for the entire speech was talk about BK and the type of program that he is going to run. Say what you want about Kelly, but he's been successful for 19 years at three different schools. I don't know what the secret is, but some coaches just know how to create successful programs. Martin is absolutely convinced that Brian Kelly is that type of guy.

Anyway, I left with a really good feeling that we have the right guy in Brian Kelly (I know, I know. Fool me once....). I would also not be surprised at all if Chuck Martin is a head coach somewhere else in 3-4 years.

(3) Great news on the Miami-Notre Dame front. We already wrote at length on this rumored game a while back, so I don't really feel the need to rehash it. I will say that I'm glad the game has been finalized, and I think Jack Swarbrick deserves a ton of credit. I'm impressed with what Swarbrick has done in the last 6-8 months in managing the football program. Good scheduling moves, managed the Big 10 rumors really well, good hire in Brian Kelly, and he has taken positive steps on the Res Life and training table stuff in terms of program management. ND football is slowly moving back in the right direction.

2012 is a phenomenal schedule. There are a slew of fun and interesting games to apply for in the ticket lottery. Overall, 2016 and 2017 look good now with Miami, and 2013 looks strong as well. I would love to see another good home and home in 2014 and 2015. Maybe Texas??

Swarbrick listened to the fans, heard the roars for a better product, and made it happen with Miami. At the very least, he is a MASSIVE upgrade from the Kevin White era. Kevin White would have been hiding under his desk if the Miami AD had called. We might have a good one in Jack Swarbrick.

4. Terrell Eldorado (that's really his middle name?) Owens! Between Pacman, TO, Chad, Matt Jones, Tank Johnson, Benson, Dunlap, and Rey Maulauga, training camp is going to be an absolute circus this year. Might have to get down to Lexington in August to see all that.

Is TO old?? Yes?? Is too much being made of this? Yes. Are the statements that Chad and TO are the best receiver duo in the league ludicrous?? Absolutely. Neither of those guys is even a #1 WR these days. Chad is basically a glorified possession WR.

But is it a good signing?? Yes, I think so. It's a one year deal. TO averaged 15 yards a catch last year. Top 20 or so in the league. He's still a big play threat. As a #2/#3 WR (depending on Antonio Bryant's health), I'll take that all day long. Plus, he gives the Bengals some depth. Instead of throwing Jordan Shipley into the fire, he can be a 4th or 5th option this year.

The biggest question for me is if the Bengals are even planning to throw the ball this year. Carson threw like 17 times a game last year. Can Carson even handle a 30-35 attempt type game anymore?? He hasn't been the same since that elbow injury. Color me skeptical.

Either way, I like the move. The Bengals have been to the playoffs two times in twenty years and got humiliated both games. I just want to see them win one playoff game.

It looks like they are going all in this year with a good defense, good running game, veteran QB, and some aging WRs making one last run. The Bengals have somehow completely stolen the thunder from the Reds in the span of two days. I'm excited to see what happens. THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE! Still think Pittsburgh and Baltimore are the favorites in the AFC North.

Back to Warren though. If you haven't had a chance to play a round at Warren, it's an absolute treat and one of the best values out there in terms of getting bang for your buck. A great university course that is extremely playable and yet challenging at the same time.

I've actually noticed in recent years that a lot of colleges are really ramping up their effors to develop their campus golf courses. I know there are some classic older courses at Duke and Stanford and other places, but Purdue has two nice Pete Dye courses now, Georgia has a Robert Trent Jones course that was done with Davis Love III, Wisconsin has an RTJ course, Texas has a new course/club I believe, and I can't even imagine what T. Boone Pickens has put together at Oklahoma State. Actually, I can. Best college course in the country apparently. No wonder Rickie Fowler and every other stud young gun in the country ends up in Stillweater these days.

Seems like colleges realize that it's good for the team, the students, employees, alums, and the town to have a nice golf facility on campus. It has become an integral part of all these colleges to have a championship course.

My thoughts on the Warren golf experience:

The Wind

You first notice the wind when you park your car and your car door almost comes off the hinges when you try to open the door. Absurd!! No wonder they built those giant wind farms off I-65 in Indiana.

There's nothing like standing at the putting green and knowing that every shot you hit on that course is going to be into a three club wind. And by "into," I mean that literally. That course somehow works out so that every shot you hit out there is into the wind. Just a very difficult thing to have to deal with, especially on some of those long par fours on the front nine.

Why is it randomly so windy at Warren?? I feel like I ask that every time I'm there. It's in the middle of a random farm land in northern Indiana, and yet I always find myself standing at the tee with my shirt blowing back into my face like I'm at Carnoustie or the 7th hole at Pebble Beach.

I always seem to forget about the wind at Warren until I show up. Make sure you work on those knockdowns and low bullets off the tee before you show up there to play.

The Layout

We have affectionately come to describe Warren as "The House that Ben Built" in honor of course designer, Mr. Ben Crenshaw. I don't believe I've ever played any other Ben Crenshaw courses before, but the man loves the links design. If you go to his website, that's about all he does. Relatively few trees in play, kind of an open layout, tough approaches and greens, always windy.

Overall, the course is in really good condition for a public course. The greens are in good shape and roll well, the fairways are green, and the bunkers are in good shape.

Who is the head groundskeeper at Warren anyway?? What does he do with his time on fall football Saturdays?? Considering the abomination that is our football turf, could he be persuaded to take over as the head groundskeeper on the football field as well?? Anything has to be better than the sloppy mess of chewed-up sod that we've been trotting out the last couple years.

For you right-to-lefters out there, Warren is a pretty good place to play if you hitt a pull hook...err...draw. Lots of holes that shape right to left and look good to the eye at the tee. Kenny Perry would break the course record at Warren.

If I had one tweak to the Warren course, I'd like to see them eventually add a pond to one of the par 3s. Maybe 14 or even 9. Actually, a pond on nine would make that a potential signature hole with the clubhouse in the background.

The Setting

In terms of a setting, does it get any better than stepping onto the second tee box and seeing that golden dome gleaming off in the distance?? It gives me goosebumps every time! There aren't many views of campus on Warren, but you really feel the ND lore out there. Heck, the sign for the third tee is dedicated to Lou Holtz.

Honestly, that's my favorite part about playing Warren. The course is great, but the setting is what it's all about. Who am I kidding?? I'm a swayer! I knock the "Welcome to ND" crowd, but I might as well be a founding member of that group. I guzzle the ND kool-aid as hard as anyone. Heck, I was a proud part of that group that gave an extended standing ovation to the team after losing AT HOME to an 8-4 USC team. Where's the bookstore?? I need a new v-neck!
The Challenges

Warren has almost no water in play as a hazard, and there really isn't even much in the way of woods or out of bounds. Piece of cake, right??

Well, Warren makes up for it in two ways: some nasty heather rough and a slew of well-placed bunkers in the fairways and on the greens.

I don't think I've ever played that course where I didn't plop at least 1-2 balls into the heather off the tee. Some of the tee boxes just line you up to go right in it. If you get in that stuff, good luck finding your ball.

The bunkers are another subtle little challenge. Lots of fairway bunkers, and the 5th and 16th holes have two little pot bunkers in front of the greens that are just scary enough to spook you into mishitting your approach. 16 is like a 300 yard hole, but I've doubled that hole mutiple times from the middle of the fairway just trying to avoid that little pot bunker. Just a great little test.

Even the greens are positioned to trip you up. You might find yourself on the green, but good luck with that putt over two rideges into a crowned hole location. Big drive, big five.

Classssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I make fun of the whole "classy" thing on this site quite a bit. The whole "Welcome to Notre Dame" stuff is just so overdone and contrived at this point, and it has made our football program into a caricature of our former selves. We're like the Chris Berman of college football programs. We've become so obsessed with being "classy" that we forgot what classy even is.

But in all truthfulness, there is still one place on campus that I consider to be genuinely classy and doesn't feel the need to jam it down our throats at all times: Warren Golf Course. Just a first class operation over there. Great entrance, great little practice area, great clubhouse, love the Warren Grille, a great staff of people that just seem to be happy as can be to be out there. And they don't overdo the ND thing. It's there, but it's not overdone.

So there it is, the Warren Golf experience. It's really a fantastic course, and I'll be the first to admit that I've come to enjoy playing Sunday morning rounds at Warren as much as the tailgating or the game or any of the ND football weekend activities.

Already looking forward to my next trip. Definitely going to make an annual trip to Warren in the summer, and I really want to play in that Saturday morning shotgun start on football weekends some time. How great would it be to saddle up to the Warren Grille for a breakfast sandwich at 8:30 am, play 18, walk directly to the parking lot with your clubs, tailgate, and then head to the game?? Stay tuned for "The Decision" if you want to make plans to meet up for a random November home game and play the shotgun start on Saturday morning.